Comments on: trendspotting the nordic barista cup http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/ Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:52:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bz http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-1246 bz Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:29:21 +0000 http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/#comment-1246 you mean i need to subscribe to another blog?! you mean i need to subscribe to another blog?!

]]> By: true http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-1240 true Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:20:45 +0000 http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/#comment-1240 Nice exercise in trend spotting. From Doug Zell's blog: "In what is becoming an increasingly espresso-centric, technical and gadget-driven world, I see the pendulum swinging back to pure expressions of marvelous single origin coffees prepared without fuss and complication. Wouldn’t that be great? Getting back to where we started, and this time getting it right." Nice exercise in trend spotting. From Doug Zell’s blog:

“In what is becoming an increasingly espresso-centric, technical and gadget-driven world, I see the pendulum swinging back to pure expressions of marvelous single origin coffees prepared without fuss and complication. Wouldn’t that be great? Getting back to where we started, and this time getting it right.”

]]> By: Jaime http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-1233 Jaime Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:21:55 +0000 http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/#comment-1233 If you treat the Clover like a vac pot.... but then most in NA were raised on Fetco and Marzocco never touching the manual methods except as a hobby. We are at a disadvantage because we are missing some of the basics. Vac pot stirring methodology is complicated and I'm no expert, but here's what I learned on vac pot and it should apply to Clover as well since the brews are similar in physics... Stirring method is to A: initially immerse the grounds and B: break the crust pre-draw down. Whisking in a circle will cause fines to migrate to the middle which is bad no matter how you look at it. Too much agitation will cause over extraction so stirring for more than 3 sec is out. The initial stir is often more of a left turn draw an M right turn deal but it varies. Everything else from temp to dose to dwelltime is roast dependent. If the temp were as flat line in clover as a well done vac pot, the cups could be similar with the exception of the filtration problem and that would be my goal in using a clover. Anyway, when Owens gets back in town, you might beg him to let you play with his TCA3. BTW Props to Alistair in that thread. If you treat the Clover like a vac pot….
but then most in NA were raised on Fetco and Marzocco never touching the manual methods except as a hobby. We are at a disadvantage because we are missing some of the basics. Vac pot stirring methodology is complicated and I’m no expert, but here’s what I learned on vac pot and it should apply to Clover as well since the brews are similar in physics…

Stirring method is to A: initially immerse the grounds and B: break the crust pre-draw down.

Whisking in a circle will cause fines to migrate to the middle which is bad no matter how you look at it. Too much agitation will cause over extraction so stirring for more than 3 sec is out.

The initial stir is often more of a left turn draw an M right turn deal but it varies. Everything else from temp to dose to dwelltime is roast dependent.

If the temp were as flat line in clover as a well done vac pot, the cups could be similar with the exception of the filtration problem and that would be my goal in using a clover.

Anyway, when Owens gets back in town, you might beg him to let you play with his TCA3. BTW Props to Alistair in that thread.

]]> By: bz http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-1220 bz Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:08:08 +0000 http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/#comment-1220 what statement, jaime? also, when has this blog ever been known for swinging and <i>hitting</i>? what statement, jaime?

also, when has this blog ever been known for swinging and hitting?

]]> By: Jaime http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-1215 Jaime Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:31:44 +0000 http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/#comment-1215 Aeropress? Swing and a miss... but the other commentary is interesting. That stirring thread is a beaut. I think it really makes a statement about the industry. Aeropress? Swing and a miss… but the other commentary is interesting.

That stirring thread is a beaut. I think it really makes a statement about the industry.

]]> By: bz http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-1214 bz Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:31:07 +0000 http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/#comment-1214 or, for that matter, subtly impugning the supremacy of those hallowed barista competitions. ;) or, for that matter, subtly impugning the supremacy of those hallowed barista competitions.
;)

]]> By: James Hoffmann http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-1212 James Hoffmann Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:05:48 +0000 http://www.chemicallyimbalanced.org/2007/09/24/trendspotting-the-nordic-barista-cup/#comment-1212 Mentioning the Clover and the Aeropress in the same sentence can get a man shot in the PNW.... Mentioning the Clover and the Aeropress in the same sentence can get a man shot in the PNW….

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